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</html>";s:4:"text";s:31807:"after new ifhe changes, usn 127mm guns on ohio and georgia can not penetrate same tier cruisers with ifhe. In that case, 105/4=26.25, +20%, equals 31.5, rounded up to 32. They fire so slowly and they're not quite as accurate considering their ROF. The IJN 155mm secondaries found on Izumo, Musashi, and Yamato will pen 32 mm with IFHE, as will the German 128 mm on all ships (B hull Gneissenau and GK) and 105mm of tier 8+ ships. So the German 105s still have more pen with IFHE, but not enough to bump them up beyond what 127s or 130s can do. Um die Durchschlagsdicke ohne IFHE zu bekommen musst du einfach die x1,3 weglassen. IFHE Changes. You will need to go to your regional portal (Wows Web Site) when the Update Patch for 0.9.2 has been published (10/11 March 2020), and click a button to "Enable" the in-game free Commander Respecs. I just want to know what is effect this is going to have on my Mutsukis guns. The ship itself is good and I would say worth it. Datamined list of IFHE penetration changes. It is set to -1% for light calibers up to 139 mm, and to -8% for the rest. The skill will now reduce the chances of causing fire by half, instead of subtracting 1% or 3% from them, depending on the calibre. The point of the rework is to weaken the benefits of IFHE so it's not mandatory. Only change, you can pen up to 30mm without IFHE, which basicly means midsection of TX Cruisers (and all other cruisers in general). https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/195178-st-inertia-fuse-for-he-shells-and-plating-changes/?page=1. Datamined list of IFHE penetration changes. Filters: Selected : 0; Change ; 12.02.2021 12:00 ST; ST 0.10.1, changes to test ships. Tier VI - Generally speaking, IFHE is effective for all gun calibers, but of less value when facing tier VIII opponents. Then you are screwed... Share this post. In Update 0.9.2, the thickness values of Cruiser and Battleship plating have been updated and the Inertia Fuse for HE Shells skill has been modified. Archived. 2020 Updates. By dps_gunner, July 30, 2019 in General Game Discussion Close. Changes in the armor plating of cruisers and battleships. Admiral Hipper mit IFHE, (203/4)x1.3=65.975 auf 66 gerundet, kann 65mm Panzerung durchdringen. It is NOT nuanced. World of Warships World of Warships is a naval action MMO, dipping into the world of large-scale sea battles of the first half of the twentieth century. save. She also has the incredible benefit of being T9 so you see less T10 games and have far more enjoyable matches. after ifhe change, both will suffer more. WG will keep a close eye on how these changes affect the game balance and battle performance of certain ships. Due to the changes being made to IFHE, we're offering a free respec for commander skills. Not to mention the firing angles and volume of fire both leave much to be desired. Nerf to that as well? I put off re-speccing the captain because of the IFHE changes that's coming. Followers 0. And this info was in initial announce: Please note, that this is a test of a concept that will not necessarily be included into the game.". The whole reason for IFHE change is to wipe the slate clean and shift profitability elsewhere. It is set to -1% for light calibers up to 139 mm, and to -8% for the rest. 20K likes. Its called a metamorphic profit model, with a sprinkle of problem/reaction/solution. Recommended Posts. (Non Aussie spelling included) Extended version of the IFHE changes: Reasons behind the changes: To simplify interactions between same-tier cruisers. Japanese Battleships were long range snipers for the most part, whose massive guns for tier usually made them the best to take out other BB's The recent buff to the 105s of Bismarck, Tirpitz, GZ, and tier 8+ German cruisers gives them 25mm of pen, 32mm with IFHE. What @general_D_H_Chun meant was that Bismarck would lose the ability to pen 32mm with her 105s (which account for the majority of her secondary DPS due to number of mounts and ROF) if you choose to take IFHE, which she just got this patch. Let me rephrase this somewhat: armor models are very detailed. People need to enjoy their super secondary Bismarcks while they can. The updated version of the skill brings it more in line with the efficiency of other skills. The current proposal for the IFHE changes are ridiculous. Well WG gave us a look at the upcoming IFHE changes and.....oh boy level 1. For ships which rely on fire damage IFHE thus can be a poor choice even if significant armor thresholds are passed. At least in higher tiers, the change "caps the limit" by introducing greater penalty and thus reducing IFHE light cruisers' effeciency, while through the complex set of changes allowed them to damage cruiser peers even without this skill, which, at least hypothetically, allows builds that give up IFHE and focuses on attacking lighter ships only. We adjusted the parameters of some ships based on testing results. The penalty to firing chance changes with caliber now. Discussion. 21 … 2,160 posts. UPDATED: Time Between Squadron Attacks PTS. Link to post Share on other sites. You still need it to pen 32mm - nothing has changed in that regard. 0.9.2 Sign in to follow this . 25*1.2=30 means 30mm of penetration under the proposed change to the HE pen rule packaged with the IFHE change, 29mm of pen under the current rule. That is going to drop their stock fire chance from 13% to 6.5%. This is a secondary build OHIO without IFHE, after the IFHE rework. World of Warships. C = can pen 19/25/32mm (Examples: YYN = can pen 19 and 25mm, YYY = can pen 19 25 and 32mm) Names suffixed with * are secondaries. AFAIK one of goals of whole IFHE REEEwork is to remove 32mm pen from T7 cruisers and below. The rules for calculating armour-penetration capacity have been changed for all HE and SAP shells: now the new rule "a shell penetrates armour if the armour-thickness value is. I am really very concerned about the changes being proposed. I'm planning on getting BFT instead (and make my 14-point captain go PM-LS-BFT-CE-IFHE). In Update 0.9.2, the thickness values of cruiser and battleship plating have been updated and the Inertia Fuse for HE Shells skill has been modified. Archived. Update 0.10.1 Release Date: 17 Feb 2021. The Henri and Worcester were staple counters to the Stalin for our Clan, with us relying on setting multiple repetitive fires and the long fire duration on Battlecruisers to neutralise their threat. But direct damage always trumps DoT damage imo. PT: IFHE, HE shells penetration, and balance changes. Not sure how "Remove ability to autopen BB's regardless of where they get hit without reducing fire chance" or "reduce fire damage - like literally every other ship type other than BB's has gotten at this point - and tweak repair party and DCP to compensate for the combination of autopen damage that eats away health plus the fires" are such hard concepts for WG to grasp. Release Date: 17 Feb 2021 Details. 0.9.2 IFHE and Cruiser and Battleship Plating Chan... New Ship and Event Flags and Patches including IJN... 9 x New Soviet Cruisers Stats and  Images Nevsky, ... PTS 0.9.1 British Cruisers: Part 2  A Chance to Te... British Heavy Cruiser Tech Tree XP and Credit Prices, Goliath Tier X British Heavy Cruiser Stats, Devonshire Tier VI British Heavy Cruiser Stats, Drake Tier IX British Heavy Cruiser Stats, Albemarle Tier VIII British Heavy Cruiser Stats, Hawkins Tier V British Heavy Cruiser Stats, London Tier VI Premium British Heavy Cruiser Stats, Updated 11 Feb: 2 x Nerfs Changes to Upgrades. The proposed change to IFHE reduces the penetration buff of the skill from 30% to 20%, resulting in only 30mm of penetration from these same guns. daring with 113m guns is 18.8mm of pen, during testing it had 114 as that is 4.5inches (british use 4.45). 4 minutes ago, Mono_De_Mantequilla said: Pages and pages of arguments going round and round about rounding. That is a HUGE nerf. How does it do this? News. These changes will allow cruisers to penetrate the armour of most same-tier ships without using the, Changes to Cruiser and Battleship Armour protection. share. Epic battles rage across the oceans of the world in order to claim victory among teams comprised of the greatest representatives from the era of multi-ton marine giants. The proposed change to IFHE reduces the penetration buff of the skill from 30% to 20%, resulting in only 30mm of penetration from these same guns. Release Date: 10? They do not need to do all this [edited] to fix IFHE. It is set to -1% for light calibers up to 139 mm, and to -8% for the rest. Followers 1. Tier III - IFHE is not needed. Epic battles rage across the oceans of the world in order to claim victory among teams comprised of the greatest representatives from the era of multi-ton marine giants. Changes to the penetration mechanics The armor-penetration capacity of HE shells of Tier VIII–X cruisers carrying 152–155 mm … IFHE is really only good for 152mm guns and IJN 100mm guns to break the 25mm and 32mm threshold. From iJoby  @ WoWs ... Wujing  Pan Asian Tier IX Battleship 1939    A battleship design developed in France in response to construction of the German "H&q... 4 x New German Researchable Sub-Branch Destroyers VII Z-31 - VIII GJ Maerker - IX F Schultz - X Elbing. World of Warships, strategy, tips, latest news, ship stats, bonus codes, developments and other content. There is no rounding ability there. 1,421 posts. I put off re-speccing the captain because of the IFHE changes that's coming. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews World of Warships > Feedback & suggestions > Topic Details. World of Warships Development Blog. So IOW, the Mass will be hitting more <25mm areas using IFHE, than Bis is hitting <32mm, also using IFHE? Man we're far way from that.... IFHE is barely in testing.....We're atleast a month way for it to be written down in a patch note. Today we would like to tell you about the upcoming changes and the reasoning behind them. ST, IFHE changes. Read More. Recommended Posts. To be honest I'm very ok with the IFHE changes, although I do think they borked it a bit with the tiering issue. New! Posted by 3 years ago. Lets jump back to 2015/2016 pre-IFHE and before some of the insane nerfs to certain lines. They feel like shooting sparrows with cannons. USN 127mm After IFHE Changes Discussion after new ifhe changes, usn 127mm guns on ohio and georgia can not penetrate same tier cruisers with ifhe. Shamelessly copypasted from the EU forum. this is something that i have just came to realisation. Their answer: . There was almost no drawback. We all know that Colbert is indeed a very interesting regrind ship.Not really overpowered but fun to play with. So, is IFHE still good on Wooster ? Name Alpha Base Pen IFHE Pen C IFHE C Ships; 100 mm HE Type98 | 1700 | 17.00 | 22.10 | NNN | YNN | Taiho\*, Ibuki\*, … C = can pen 19/25/32mm (Examples: YYN = can pen 19 and 25mm, YYY = can pen 19 25 and 32mm) Names suffixed with * are secondaries.  If required, additional balance corrections will be applied to the skill and some ships to preserve their battle performance. Only change, you can pen up to 30mm without IFHE, which basicly means midsection of TX Cruisers (and all other cruisers in general). 120mm guns are especially taxed when bottom tier. World of Warships is a naval action MMO, dipping into the world of large-scale sea battles of the first half of the twentieth century. Bonus Codes   In case you missed out on the codes - some may work some may not, it is always worth a try. But direct damage always trumps DoT damage imo. IFHE All Night Long by LittleWhiteMouse. German 150mm also gets 37mm of pen without IFHE. Especially when really the bigger issue is actually IFHE vs low tier BB's that have at best a fraction of the mitigation of their tier 10 counterparts, especially in the hands of newer players. Overall I like the idea behind the changes. The formula for fire chance can be found in Fires. On 2/10/2020 at 7:00 AM, shonai said: Due to the change of the rule for calculating armor penetration of all the HE and SAP shells, the plating of Tier VI-VII battleships is changed to 26 mm - so that interclass interaction remains unchanged. Table of changes to the penetration mechanics: Please note: the table indicates the minimum plating thickness for each ship tier! Sure, it still can do fine against T7 and below with IFHE (and reduced fire chance) and it still can do nice against DDs, but being utterly unable to even hurt the least well-armoured T8+ BBs anywhere but on the superstructure is just going to be terrible. You need to play a total of 10 battles to post in this section. To compensate for this, some ships are being buffed - 152-155mm ships get 1/5 pen, and the IJN 100mm DD's are getting pen buffs too. they have a "relative advantage" that is hardly worth anything, as the hit ratio it vastly inferior to other ships that run secondary build, such as Massachusetts. IFHE will be … Changes to the Inertia Fuse for HE Shells Skill (Update 0.9.2). 12 [WA2K] Vikala. Now they decide to half the fire chance, which in more than a few cases means DDs would lose MORE than 3% fire chance. The change to IFHE by itself seems like a step in the right direction, making the skill have actually meaningful trade offs, but pairing it with the ill-thought-out global changes to cruiser and BB plating seems like WG trying to do too much too quickly. Better if it comes as a small nerf and not a game changer for CL... Gotta let the BB mafia get their way and be immune to anything, but other BBs. Changes in plating will increase the survivability of cruisers: if positioned properly, they will become more resistant to battleship fire at range, because AP shells hitting at an acute angle will ricochet off the plating. The IFHE change is a direct nerf to any ship that uses it. Release Date: 20 Jan 2021 Details. You need to play a total of 10 battles to post in this section. By _Weikath_, February 27, 2020 in Development Blog. 123. As to the matter of a respec, it is coming tomorrow morning. Name Alpha Base Pen IFHE … I get that WG wants to make the mid-section of cruisers more resistant to getting overmatched as this intent was communicated a very long time ago. Tier II - IFHE is not needed. Bismarck currently gets 32mm of pen from her 105mm secondaries with IFHE (25mm base), contrary to what you initially stated, following the buff that dropped with the current patch. The armour-penetration capacity of HE shells of Tier VIII–X cruisers carrying 152–155 mm guns, which was previously calculated in accordance with the 1/6-calibre rule, will now be calculated following the 1/5-calibre rule. 15 comments. the 150mms are for all intents and purposes, Z-23 guns with shittier dispersion. My goal with this list was to create a very basic yes/no binary for the typical World of Warships player. not sure about massa because i dont have it, but i guess she cant penetrate some of the t8 cruisers too. I'm assuming yes because this will be quite a big change. This IFHE change is going to make the Stalingrad VERY powerful. World of Warships - Asia Language Based Communities ; English Speaking Community ; General Discussions ; Extended version of the IFHE changes. Discussion. On 2/11/2020 at 2:33 AM, ShinGetsu said: It's only the standard chances of a fire being caused by HE shells which are reduced by half. Now, Gneissenau and GK will be big winners if these changes go through, because the global change to the HE penetration rule from “greater than” to “greater than or equal to” would mean their 128s (and, thus, their entire secondary suites) would pen 32mm without IFHE. 123. This is a big deal against higher tier BBs that like to go bow-in. (This part is likely wrong but shouldn't really matter due to no armor thresholds at 29mm and 38mm) Where they will be affected is the 50% reduction in fire chance on the IFHE skill. btw, i think IFHE change its HUGE NERF FOR BELFAST.... huahahahaaaha I think Manual AA skill will be removed since its not common for anything lol Share this post. The funny part is, this IFHE change it's actually a second huge nerf for Atlanta(and Flint too i guess) since you will still be forced to take the skill to be able to damage same tier ships but at the same time it will only give you 26mm pen instead of the current 27mm, making you completely unable to damage t8+ cruisers. I think 8% penalty on IFHE is a bit too much though, but individual numbers can be refined. Or do you mean other ships will end up being able to do this, so the Bismarck advantage becomes the norm? StormhawkV. World of Warships - free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer game from Wargaming. Datamined list of IFHE penetration changes. They'd have to but I doubt these changes are going through - it doesn't solve the issue of IFHE vs lower tier ships, namely BB's, while at the same time like creating issues of cruisers vs higher tier BB's AGAIN that caused IFHE to be implemented in the first place. Update 0.10.0. The bonus applied to the armour-penetration capacity of HE shells now depends on the ship’s tier. We continue to test the modified plating for cruisers and Tier VI-VII battleships as well as the updated "Inertia Fuse for HE Shells" skill. The proposed change to IFHE reduces the penetration buff of the skill from 30% to 20%, resulting in only 30mm of penetration from these same guns. This will result in players exploring a wider variety of skill options for their cruiser and destroyer Commanders. 263 [LUOMU] HMS_Swiftsure_08. 203s already break the 32mm threshold, but cannot break the 50mm threshold with IFHE (~44mm of penetration), which is the next level of deck armor on heavier ships like German ships, Yamato class, and Izumo. Ok thanx, I get it now. This was so that more DDs pick up the skill. Any ship that isn't up to standard needs buffs in other areas to compensate. What if you dont get permafires on a BB? But the changes to IJN gunboat is just to keep it at its current level if changes are made to IFHE. Update 0.10.2. Note that as per update 0.9.2 IFHE now halves the BASE fire chance of shells. 120mm / 6 = 20mm and will pen 20mm in the new system. multilayer stuff and whatnot. The whole thing is a convoluted mess. New! In case the change is adopted, IFHE is automatically reset for 4 skill points. Mar 2021 Details. 2021 Updates. 14,952 battles [LUOMU] HMS_Swiftsure_08 263 Captain; ST Coordinator; 263 1,421 posts; 14,952 battles; Report post #9; … 25*1.3=32.5 -> 33 means 32mm of penetration 25*1.2=30 means 30mm of penetration under the proposed change to the HE pen rule packaged with the IFHE change, 29mm of pen under the current rule. Jul 17, 2019 @ 2:15am Regarding the upcoming IFHE changes They feel like shooting sparrows with cannons. The 150s have more than that without IFHE, and the 105s won't pen 32mm, even with IFHE. Tier V - IFHE is not needed when top tier, but is useful when facing higher tiered opponents. Ok, so basically, German 105s lose their absolute advantage of 32mm pen, but retain a relative advantage over other nations' small secondaries, in that they can pen 25mm without IFHE. Enjoy! But isn't it true that now, nobody's secondaries will pen 32mm, but the German 105s will pen 25mm without IFHE, while 130s and 127s need IFHE to do it? I asked Wargaming point-blank if the IFHE changes were going through (I was interested for my Bayard review). Followers 0. This change should make IFHE more viable on DDs and reduce its excessive performance on some cruisers. The FdG has had this advantage since January-ish, and while it has made the ship better, IFHE is still a big point investment for questionable gains at high tier (I personally don’t run IFHE, but I understand why others do). Jump to: navigation, search. The IFHE rework has changed IFHE from a brainless "if you have the skill points, always take it". I really hope that doesn't push through. dps_gunner, July 30, 2019 in General Game Discussion. Close. Instead of just balancing those ships out, somehow someone with decision-making authority has … And the IJN gunboats, especially Harugumo, do act more like CL than DD in handling. You need to play a total of 20 battles to post in this section. for flint and atlanta; they heavily suffer after cv rework, especially atlanta because she doesnt have smoke. This change should make IFHE more viable on DDs and reduce its excessive performance on some cruisers. Edited July 30, 2019 by … You can't rely on those larger secondary guns like 150mm, 155mm. Pretty much. Frankly, if these changes stick, then IFHE should be bumped down to a 3 or 2 point skill in order to compensate. I personally like how they changed IFHE to only be -1% fire chance for DDs because no DD was willing to give up 3% fire chance. Cheshire Tier VIII Premium British Heavy Cruiser S... 0.9.2 Buffs n Nerfs to Ships - Inertia Fuse HE She... Ranked Season 15 Arms Race Missions Maps Dates and... Visby European Tier V Destroyer Detailed Stats. From what I've read, the recommended Akizuki build has DE+IFHE to fully utilize penetration and fire chance, but now that IFHE is buffed, is it still worth to get DE? 7 comments in this topic. Changelogs for World of Warships. 25*1.3=32.5 -> 33 means 32mm of penetration. 5 comments in this topic. Edit: I’m pretty sure the IJN 100mm secondaries on some ships such as Azusa get the same pen as the primary guns of the tier 8+ gunboat DDs, so they can also pen 32mm with IFHE. what about BB secondaries? Can someone post a link about the changes. The Second Season Updated Brawls Armory Visual and Technical Enhancements Other Changes details. The changes will be applied to hybrids Ise and Tone. I hope so LWM. So it's still a ways off, if it comes into the game at all. not sure about massa because i dont have it, but i guess she cant penetrate some of the t8 cruisers too. It is set to -1% for light calibers up to 139 mm, and to -8% for the rest. 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